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Join today!\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Sponsors:\u003C/p>\u003Cp>\u003Cul>\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://codeship.com/changelog\">Codeship\u003C/a> – If it works with Docker, it works with Codeship Jet.\n\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"https://www.statuspage.io/?utm_source=changelog&utm_medium=podcast\">StatusPage\u003C/a> – The best way to create a status page for your app or website.\n\u003C/li>\n\u003C/ul>\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Featuring:\u003C/p>\u003Cul>\u003Cli>Curtis Poe – \u003Ca href=\"https://ovid.github.io\" rel=\"external ugc\">Website\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/ovid\" rel=\"external ugc\">GitHub\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://x.com/ovidperl\" rel=\"external ugc\">X\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\u003Cli>Adam Stacoviak – \u003Ca href=\"https://adamstacoviak.com/\" rel=\"external ugc\">Website\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/adamstac\" rel=\"external ugc\">GitHub\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamstacoviak\" rel=\"external ugc\">LinkedIn\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://changelog.social/@adam\" rel=\"external ugc\">Mastodon\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://x.com/adamstac\" rel=\"external ugc\">X\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\u003Cli>Jerod Santo – \u003Ca href=\"https://jerodsanto.net\" rel=\"external ugc\">Website\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/jerodsanto\" rel=\"external ugc\">GitHub\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto\" rel=\"external ugc\">LinkedIn\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://changelog.social/@jerod\" rel=\"external ugc\">Mastodon\u003C/a>, \u003Ca href=\"https://x.com/jerodsanto\" rel=\"external ugc\">X\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\u003C/ul>\u003C/p>\u003Cp>Show Notes:\u003C/p>\u003Cp>\u003Cul>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"https://twitter.com/ovidperl\">Curtis “Ovid” Poe - Twitter\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/Ovid\">Ovid - GitHub\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1118013840/5by5-20\">Beginning Perl by Curtis Poe - Amazon.com\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wall\">Larry Wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/thechangelog/ping/issues/87\">Lets talk about Perl! · Issue #87 · thechangelog/ping\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://learn.perl.org/\">Learn Perl - learn.perl.org\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://blogs.perl.org/users/philip_durbin/2011/05/john-siracusa-discusses-perl-on-hypercritical.html\">John Siracusa discusses Perl on Hypercritical | Philip Durbin [blogs.perl.org]\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://siracusafamily.org/john/perl/index.html\">John Siracusa’s Perl Page\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL\">COBOL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://blog.booking.com/category/development.html\">Booking.com dev blog\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjoWu4eq1Tw\">Curtis Poe (Ovid) - Roles versus Inheritance - YouTube\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"https://github.com/Ovid/Role-Basic\">Ovid/Role-Basic\u003C/a>\u003C/li>\n\u003Cli>\u003Ca href=\"http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2010/01/roles-without-moose.html\">Roles without Moose? 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