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Concentricity!","https://op3.dev/e/https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/https://cdn.changelog.com/uploads/friends/97/changelog--friends-97.mp3","Fri, 13 Jun 2025 17:00:00 +0000",7621,{"guid":134,"title":135,"slug":110,"description":136,"audioUrl":137,"pubDate":138,"duration":139,"artwork":124,"episodeType":125},"changelog.com/17/2681","Here's my Siri theory (Friends)","Justin Searls from Breaking Change joins the show to discuss Apple's Intelligence blunder, the end of the good times in the tech industry, and POSSE Party, his in-progress product that lets \"any dummy with a website enjoy a life of algorithm-free luxury.\"","https://op3.dev/e/https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/https://cdn.changelog.com/uploads/friends/85/changelog--friends-85.mp3","Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:15:00 +0000",7375,{"guid":141,"title":142,"slug":111,"description":143,"audioUrl":144,"pubDate":145,"duration":146,"artwork":124,"episodeType":125},"changelog.com/17/2456","Putting the Apple in AI (Friends)","Justin Searls joins us for hot takes on Apple's 2024 WWDC keynote. Apple Intelligence stole the show, but did it steal our hearts? Oh, and we learn all about Justin's Vision Pro Life and how he hopes/expects Apple's latest device to improve in future iterations.","https://op3.dev/e/https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/https://cdn.changelog.com/uploads/friends/48/changelog--friends-48.mp3","Fri, 14 Jun 2024 15:15:00 +0000",7275,{"guid":148,"title":149,"slug":112,"description":150,"audioUrl":151,"pubDate":152,"duration":153,"artwork":124,"episodeType":125},"changelog.com/17/2265","It dependencies (Friends)","Jerod goes one-on-one with our old friend Justin Searls! 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